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nikitas · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:19 pm Post subject:

Καλά το σοβαρό ΑΡ άρχισε να ρωτάει τώρα και ταξιτζήδες (who spoke on condition of anonymity) για την Τελετή; Σε λίγο θα πάει σε καφετζούδες και χαρτορίχτρες;; Very Happy

Από τα πιο παλαβά ρεπορτάζ του ΑΡ που έχω διαβάσει!

Όσο για το ρεπορτάζ από την USAtoday είναι ανησυχητικό αν όντως ο βωμός έχει πρόβλημα. Το βλέπαμε στις φωτο τις τελευταίες μέρες και νομίζαμε ότι ήταν κάτι άλλο και όχι πρόβλημα! Ελπίζω να μην πάθουμε κάζο χειρότερο από το Sydney Confused

Atlanta Greek · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:53 pm Post subject:

Νικητα, αν ο βωμος δεν ειχε προβλημα δεν θα του κανανε εγχειρηση ανοιχτης κοιλιας. Πιστευω να λυθηκε το προβλημα. Για αυτο καναν τις δοκιμες, να μη ρεζιλευτουμε την Παρασκευη.

woofy · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:03 pm Post subject:

E, afou kai to NBC arxise na grafei toso kala arthra (kai malista apo ton diko tou antapokriti, oxi apo alla praktoreia) mporw pia na aisiodoksw:

Glittering Athens ready for Games
Olympics' birthplace seems to have everything in place

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5649561/

Kai ena apo AP:

Village draws raves from Olympic officials
Athletes' accommodations in Athens called 'best-ever'

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5649922/

sq350 · Full Member Joined: 10 Jul 2004 Posts: 315

woofy

To NBC egrapse kai metedwse ta ligotera arnitika gia tous Agwnes ola ayta ta xronia. Ousiastika to kanei giati diafimizontas tous Agwnes poulaei to programma tou. Min ksexname oti einai National Olympic Broadcaster. Me alla logia exei ta apokleistika dikaiwmata metadwsis twn Agwnwn stis USA. Ypirxe periptwsi na leei oti ola einai mpaxalo? Ti tiletheasi tha eixe meta?

DonAlex · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:04 pm Post subject:

Proligou parakolouthisa 2 reportage sto BBC kai ITV kai xwris plaka m'anevasan !!!!
Eidika otan milise mia athlitria gia to athlitiko xwrio....TONISE oso den epairne allo...pws
"you will not these facilities anywhere else in the world" Laughing

Oi de parousiastes, den eipane OUTE ENA !!!...estw gia ti ligoura vre adelfe...
ENA...kako...eirwniko...sarkastiko....telos pantwn...Aggliko sxolio...TIPOTA Shocked

OLA MELI GALA...OLA TELEIA....GREEKS DID IT..."They have made the best sport facilities in the world"
YYYYYYEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!

KEFALONITIS · Full Member Joined: 19 Feb 2004 Posts: 280 Location: NYC

An kai eipa na krataw mia "pisinh" den antexsa ...ektupwsa ta ap8pa tou MSNBC gia to Olympiako Xwriou ka i tis dhlwseis olwn ws "kaluterto olwn twn epoxwn" ka8ws kai to ap8paki gia gia th etoimothta kai ta moirasa se osous synadelfous mou eixan spasei ta neura afhnontas sto grafeio mou diafora arnhtika ap8ra xleuazontas gia thn Ellada.

Twra to exoun BOULWSEI OLOI. Twisted Evil

Elpizw sti 29 Augoustou na noiwsoume thn xara pou noiwsame stis 4 Iouliou.pros to paron as xaroume tous agwnes Very Happy

nikitas · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:54 pm Post subject:

Ρεπορτάζ του ΑΡ, έχει και μια παράγραφο για τις δυο μασκότ με φωτογραφία τους που δεν την βάζω εδώ γιατί εμείς τις έχουμε δει και συνηθίσει (και για να μην ξανατρομάξουμε). Smile

Το θέμα είναι ότι για πρώτη φορά τις βλέπουν και οι ξένοι και η δημοσιογράφοι και η αντίδρασή τους είναι ανάλογη αυτών που είχαμε εμείς: "This handout photo shows Athena, left, and Phevos, the mascots for the Athens 2004 Olympics. They're getting more bad press than the Olsen twins, and worse reviews than the latest Spike Lee flick. Phevos and Athena, siblings named for a pair of Greek deities, are catching an ungodly amount of abuse around Athens."

Χάθηκε όταν είδαν τις αντιδράσεις τις δικές μας προ ετών να βάλουν και μια τρίτη μασκότ; Ακόμα και η πιο πετυχημένη μασκότ των Ολυμπιακών, ο Μίσα, δεν ήταν μόνος του, αλλά ποιός θυμάται την άλλη; Χάθηκε π.χ. να βάλουν μια κουκουβάγια που και σύμβολο της Αθήνας και της Αθηνάς είναι και παραμπέμπει κατευθείαν στη νυχτερινή κουλτουρα της πόλης και όμορφο ζωάκι είναι.

projected · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:56 pm Post subject:

ahahha se katalabainw Kefaloniti.... Cool

Kai egw prospa8w na krathsw pisinh an kai 8elw na bgw stous dromous na OURLIAZWWWW .

Ypsilon · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:57 pm Post subject:

Είμαστε "κουρλοί" εμείς οι Επτανήσιοι!!! Laughing

(Εγώ είμαι κατά 1/4 μόνο, αλλά έχω πάρει όλα τα χούγια τους) Razz

Μπράβο Κεφαλλονίτη, συνέχισε να τους αποστομώνεις, γιατί κάποια στιγμή πρέπει να το βουλώσουν. Και τώρα, Let the Games begin, γιατί πολύ ασχοληθήκαμε με τους γιάνκηδες μου φαίνεται!! Laughing

nikitas · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:02 pm Post subject:

Εγώ δεν κρατάω καμιά πισινή, τους στέλνω κανονικότατα τα άρθρα με email Very Happy

To γεγονός όμως είναι ότι οι Γερμανοί συνάδελφοί μου έκαναν ελάχιστα σχόλια όλο αυτό τον καιρό, όλοι οι υπόλοιποι Ευρωπαίοι, Νοτιοαμερικάνοι, Ασιάτες, Αμερικάνοι κλπ δεν είχαν ποτέ καμιά αμφιβολία και μόνο μερικοί Ολλανδοί έκαναν κάποια ειρωνικά σχόλια (κλασσικό του ολλανδικού λαού).

Ετοιμάζω και farewell παρτυ την Πέμπτη όπου και τους είπα ότι θα γίνει κλήρωση με δώρο μια μεγάλη "Ολυμπιακή" έκπληξη! Νομίζουν ότι θα είναι κανένα ολυμπιακό προϊόν αλλά τους έχω το Φοίβο και την Αθηνά σε μπρελόκ! Εκεί να δεις σοκ και αρνητικά σχόλια Very Happy

Nikos C. · Stadium Expert Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 1041

Καλά ρε Νικήτα! Δονητές θα τους κάνεις δώρο τους ανθρώπους! Laughing

marin · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:10 pm Post subject:

Kai egw exw bombardistei apo thetika arthra se oles tis efimerides to Savatokyriako. By the way mipws kanenas apo tous (akoma) en Agglia diabase to arthro gia ti Gianna sto comment sto kyriws meros twn Sunday Times?
Kata ta alla to mono faux pas pou brika itan oti proi proi Kyriaki sto programma Breakfast with Frost tou BBC pou einai to leading ebdomadiaio politiko magazino tis Agglikis tileorasis, emfanistike i Palli-Palli na apantisei tis erwtiseis, mprosta apo tin Akropoli. Wraio to background, alla prin arxisoun na bgazoun ti Fani sta Agglosaxonika media kala tha kanoun na tis xekinisoun idaitera Agglikwn me ti Ntora giati ta Agglika tis einai sxolikou epipedou. Afinw ta xiliades "eeerm" mprosta apo kathe lexi. Profanws skeftotan ti lexi paei pou kai o logos tis itan poly kakos. Fysika einai Ellinida ypourgos, kai den einai ypoxreomenni na milaei apsoga agglika alla tote as min ti bgazoun sto sygkekrimeno programma tote an den exoun kanei tin ereuna tous kai den xeroun peri tinos prokeitai. Itan tragiki me apokoryfoma tin apeutheias metarasi apo ta Ellinika pou ekane otan rwtithike gia ta eisitiria..."It is eeeeeeermm something crazy what is eeeeeerrm happening here from where I am now eeeeeerm I can see the queues that people make in front of the Syntagma to have a ticket! I am sure that the stadia will be full"!!!! Diladi ithele na to pei kai sta argo Ellinika "Einai kati to trello auto pou symbainei..."
Imarton!

marin · Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:02 am Post subject:

Sourrealistiki stigmi prin tous Olympiakous No. 34:
Ekei pou bazeis ena potiri nero na pieis afou exeis mpei sto spiti sou (thymisai oti meneis stin prwteuousa tou HB) akous Ellinika apo tin TV epi 4 oloklira lepta na diafimizoun programma gia ta 7 thaumata twn arxaiwn Ellinwn...Pros stigmin nimizeis oti eisai stin Ellada alla oxi...tosi broxi kai synnefia Augousto mina apokleietai!

Sourrealistiki stigmi No 35:
Ektenes arthro ston xeno typo gia tin ekfrasi "HALARA" kai to bathytero noima tis...

nikitas · Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:04 am Post subject:

Συνέντευξη Jacques Rogge στη Guardian. Κάνει και προβλέψεις για μετάλλιο στον Πύρρο Δήμα.

""We have had, let us say, a very hectic preparation. When the Greeks had delays we urged them to accelerate and, in the end, they did. I always said they would finish in time and over the last few weeks this has happened. They are extremely proud of the games - they are their invention, after all. And if you saw their enthusiasm for the football, you have an idea of the enthusiasm they'll bring to these Olympics."

"People have short memories. Sydney was highly criticised in the build-up. We had lots of controversy and instability - with four chief executives and three presidents of the Sydney games. There was also a major ticketing uproar.

"Of course the controversy in Athens has been much bigger. But I always think of Atlanta in 1996. We had a long honeymoon period before those games, but then we had huge technical and transportation problems. So all this gives me a sense of relativity about the build-up to Athens. I am very optimistic. Athens may surprise you."

http://sport.guardian.co.uk/olympics2004/story/0,,1279089,00.html

Zamafou · Full Member Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 286

http://www.enet.gr/online/online_text?c=112&id=25291596,41447628,47236684,55259084

ΤΡΕΙΣ ΑΛΛΟΔΑΠΟΙ ΔΗΜΟΣΙΟΓΡΑΦΟΙ, ένας Ιάπωνας, ένας Τούρκος και μία Αμερικανίδα, μιλούν στην «Ε» για τις πρώτες εντυπώσεις από την Αθήνα των Αγώνων

Zamafou · Full Member Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 286

ΤΕΛΙΚΑ ΔΕΝ ΕΙΜΑΣΤΕ ΚΑΘΟΛΟΥ ΚΑΛΑ ΜΟΥ ΦΑΙΝΕΤΑΙ!
Evil or Very Mad

Και οι Μεξικανοί το χαβά τους

Ληστεία... μεξικάνα προσπάθησαν να σκηνοθετήσουν χθες το μεσημέρι δημοσιογράφοι μεξικανικού τηλεοπτικού σταθμού, οι οποίοι από τους χιλιάδες ξένους δημοσιογράφους είναι οι μόνοι που ήρθαν στην Ελλάδα αποφασισμένοι να κατακτήσουν το χρυσό μετάλλιο ανακατωσούρας.

Σύμφωνα με πληροφορίες, το νέο επεισόδιο στήθηκε ως εξής:

Οι δημοσιογράφοι αποφάσισαν να σκηνοθετήσουν μια ληστεία σε καταστηματάρχη στην Πλάκα, προφανώς με τη συναίνεσή του. Ενας εξ αυτών ντύθηκε περίεργα σαν αγύρτης, οι υπόλοιποι περίμεναν να μπει στο μαγαζί και να το ληστέψει και απώτερος στόχος της... συγκλονιστικής δημοσιογραφικής αποστολής ήταν να καταγράψει τις αντιδράσεις των Ελλήνων πολιτών στη θέα ενός καταστηματάρχη που τρέχει φωνάζοντας: «Πιάστε τον, κλέφτης...».

Ηταν, όπως ειπώθηκε ανεπισήμως, ένας δημοσιογράφος, ένας ηθοποιός και ένας εικονολήπτης. Μόνο που κάποιοι τους αντελήφθησαν και κάλεσαν αστυνομικούς, που ούτως ή άλλως αφθονούν αυτές τις μέρες. Από τ' αυτί και στο αστυνομικό τμήμα της Ακρόπολης όπου διαπιστώθηκε ότι οι Μεξικανοί δεν είχαν μαζί τους τις διαπιστεύσεις αλλά είχαν μπει νομίμως στην Ελλάδα και ότι δεν μπορούσε να διαπιστωθεί αδίκημα που να περιλαμβάνεται στον ελληνικό Ποινικό Κώδικα, ο οποίος ως γνωστόν δεν τιμωρεί την κουταμάρα.

EDIT :

Να τηρούν τον κώδικα της δημοσιογραφικής δεοντολογίας, σεβόμενοι ταυτόχρονα πλήρως την ελληνική νομοθεσία και προσέχοντας τα ισχύοντα μέτρα ασφαλείας, συνέστησε στους συμπατριώτες του δημοσιογράφους ο πρεσβευτής του Μεξικού στην Αθήνα, Αλεχάντρο Ντίας Πέρες Ντουάρτε

http://www.in.gr/news/article.asp?lngEntityID=557394&lngDtrID=244

Nicos A · Visitor Joined: 30 Jul 2004 Posts: 4 Location: Toronto

A well written article from the Toronto Star.

'Kefi' joy grips Athens
Future has arrived for Olympic hosts
Sense of awe over completed job

MITCH POTTER
STAFF REPORTER

ATHENS—The word is kefi, it is pronounced "keh-fee," and to our everlasting regret, there is no English equivalent. But watch for it soon emanating from a Greek soul near you.

An irrepressible joy, a transcendental ebullience, an utterly profound sense of satisfaction in the moment: kefi is all of this and more. Put another way, kefi is that state of heart, if not of mind, that moves one to smash plates in sheer happiness.

Here in Athens, still three days from Olympic lift-off, flashes of kefi are mounting daily. At the brand new Neratziotissa Station, where a brand new Siemens bullet train links the brand new Athens airport with the brand new OAKA Olympic Complex, we watched an Athenian family step gingerly onto the platform, agape in wonder at all that has been built, so well and so quickly.

The wonder turned to momentary confusion when the train's doors failed to open. Then they spotted the loonie-sized green button flashing at waist-level. Presto. With cries of "Opa!" they climbed aboard, beaming smiles of awe to a future that is now.

There are, of course, at least two $2 billion questions looming over it all, questions larger than the Olympics itself: in a world still numb from vestigial visions of Twin Towers terror, can our species even trust itself to come together in this way? And, at the price of an Orwellian security blanket five times more expensive than Sydney 2000, is it really worth it?

Athenians, who have endured so much to get here — and are almost certain to endure much, much more when the final bill rolls in — answer now in the affirmative.

At Syntagma Square yesterday, Helene Papadatou, 44, shrugged off the security questions as she and her husband led their 5-year-old son through a day tour of their transformed city. Though they are locals, they were unabashedly playing tourist in their own backyard, videotaping their first glimpse of the freshly made-over city centre.

Athens, long famous for its day-and-night contrasts — misery by day, magic by night — now looks stunning around the clock.

"All along, our answer to the delays was, `We are a last-minute culture. We will get there,'" she laughed.

"But now that it's done, I confess: We had our doubts. But I am so happy with what we see. I don't care about security. Everything that can be done is being done. And I don't care about the price, either. Everything has a cost. But this is worth it."

The burgeoning sense of kefi is not lost on Marc George, a 50-year-old professor of Latin and Greek studies at University of Louvain in Bruges, Belgium. A true Hellenophile, George has no Greek blood, but considers himself one of the family, having led his students on school trips to Athens for 18 summers.

"I tried to volunteer with the Belgian Olympic Committee but they refused me because I was too old. But Athens 2004 accepted me, which is even better," said George, who will spend the next three weeks on traffic detail.

"I just had to be here. I love the sports of course but it goes beyond that. I teach Greek philosophy, the classics. I am here to feel this spirit of mind and soul that only the Greeks understand."

When the Star first explored preparations for Athens in November, 2000, it found a city so backward in basic infrastructure requirements there seemed a very real possibility the International Olympic Committee would make good on its veiled threats to pull the Games altogether.

Already reeling from the burden of reforms demanded by the European Union, Athens felt as though the sheer weight of antiquity was altogether too much to cut through.

Today, as the country promised all along, a Big Fat Greek Olympics is certain. A shortfall of visitors — some citing security fears, others who doubted the city would be ready — could mean half-empty houses for many events. And the triple-shifted race to complete construction, coupled with extra security burden, have some Greek analysts fearing the final tally may top $15 billion. That is nothing a global television audience of potentially 4 billion people is likely to notice. And even now, with the eyes of the world already upon them, the financial angst appears to have taken a holiday.

Eventually, hard questions will come when Greece learns the real price of Athens 2004. For now, let there be kefi.

More than 10,000 Canadians will be among those converging on Athens — athletes, family, friends and a disparate assortment of garden-variety sports enthusiasts.

Then there are the Greek-Canadians, drawn back from the diaspora to their ancestral home as spectators and volunteers, and conversely, Canadian-Greeks, living here as dual-citizen expats.

Among the latter is Saskatoon-born Kathryn Lukey-Coutsocostas, who is already neck-deep in pre-Games frenzy as a volunteer at the Athens 2004 Main Press Centre. She arrived 25 years ago, newly wed to her Athenian husband, who she met as a dorm-mate at University of Manitoba. And say what you will of security fears, Lukey-Coutsocostas says she wouldn't miss this for the world.

"All the expats and all the Greeks of the diaspora, we are so proud of this moment. The country put it all together its own way. I just couldn't imagine not being a part of it," said Lukey-Coutsocostas, who lives in Thessaloniki.Long before 9/11, she said, Athens 2004 beckoned as an historic moment twice over: an Olympiad with the promise to restore ancestral purpose to an event addled by drugs, corruption and overarching commercialism; and for Greece, a colossal last leap into the Western modernity that has been a national struggle for the better part of a decade.

"We've been in transition throughout this whole process, opening ourselves to Europe as we readied for the Games. The concern for so many was in holding on to the national identity," she said. "I was always comfortable with what was coming, as a Canadian living here. I knew from our blend of cultures in Canada that it can only be a good thing. We can work with it, benefit from it."

Today, said Lukey-Coutsocostas, the legacy of that transformation won't simply be state-of-the-art infrastructure. Greece can now march forward, the weight of its past leavened by the promise of its future.

Such is the kefi that her biggest worry today is what she might do in the event that a Canadian and a Greek athlete find themselves chasing the same medal.

"I honestly don't know which one I would cheer for the most," she laughs.

"You can theorize all you want but until that moment comes, they are both number one in my heart. Put it this way: if they both leave with medals, I leave a winner either way."

Additional articles by Mitch Potter

Lamp Kiddy

Ekliptoi oi Kanadoi athlites me tin Athina :

Wed, August 11, 2004

It's all good so far

Canadian athletes feeling at home in Olympic Village
http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/WinnipegSun/Sports/2004/08/11/577413.html

To deftero arthro omos einai kapos eironiko. Milaei gia poli zesti, adia stadia kai ashima mascots:
http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/WinnipegSun/Sports/2004/08/11/577415.html

sq350 · Full Member Joined: 10 Jul 2004 Posts: 315

Sas metaferw ena mail apo filo pou zei stin Agglia gia dyo ekpompes se agglika kanalia. sorry gia ti fraseologia alla einai ... original metafora.

losada7 · Moderator Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 4162

Όπως είπαμε καλό είναι να μην κοιτάμε πίσω,

ΩΣΤΟΣΟ θα πρέπει να σας θυμήσω ότι όλες αυτές οι "κυράτσες" και αυτοί οι "κύριοι" που πανηγυρίζουν τώρα και τα βλέπουν όλα καλά και τελειωμένα, είναι οι υπαίτιοι(οργανωμένα και εν γνώσει τους) που η συντιπτική πλειοψηφία των θεατών θα είναι έλληνες και όχι αλλοδαποί. Αρκετοί έλληνες θα αναγκαστούν να φάνε τον 13ο μισθό τους στα εισητήρια . Μετά θα έρθει ο Σεμπτέμβρης και τότε θα φανεί(θα βγεί εκτός προγράμματος ο οικογεν. σχεδιασμός) πόσο μεγάλη οικονομική ζημιά μας έκαναν οι "αντικειμενικοί" δημοσιογράφοι !

Αφού αλλάξαμε τόσα στη νοοτροπία μας αυτό το καλοκαίρι ας αλλάξουμε και τη συνήθεια μας ....... να ξεχνάμε αυτούς που μας βλάπτουν .... Exclamation

Nikos C. · Stadium Expert Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 1041

sq350 · Full Member Joined: 10 Jul 2004 Posts: 315

Symfwno me ton NIkos C.

Emeis dwsame aformes gia na mas thewroun tritokosmikous , tempelides kai anorganwtous. Tin prokatalipsi enantion mas MONOI MAS ti dimiourgisame. H DOE otan dinei 7 xronia dioria gia na einai ola etoima kati kserei kai kyriws den exei stoxo na mas piesei alla ayto pou tin kaiei einai na exoun teleiwsei ola stin wra tous. An eixame ksikinisei egkairws kai tyxaine stin poreia kati aproopto kaneis den tha mas tin epefte etsi asxima.

marin · Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:46 am Post subject:

Ola ta arthra mexri stigmis stis Agglikes efimerides einai poly thetika, kai stin Evening St, proxtes eixe oloselidi foto tou Otto me ti dada kai exigouse oti poso simantiko einai oti auto einai to kalokairi tis Elladas, kai ti mporoun na mathoun oloi (athlites kai anthropoi) apo tin Elliniki omada sto Euro kai apo tous Ellinikous Olympiakous. Poly swsta kai me bathos gramena.
Simera to brady kata tis 10.30 tha exei 1 wra preview to BBC1. Oloi lene ta kalytera genika.

Nikos C. · Stadium Expert Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 1041

Στο ίντερνετ είδα και γω ένα καταπληκτικό ρεπορτάζ του BBC που ήταν απίστευτα θετικό. Του στύλ ότι "ναι μεν ορισμένα φτιάχνονται, αλλά το Ολυμπιακό χωριό είναι το καλύτερο, τα ΜΜΜ σούπερ μοντέρνα, οι εντυπώσεις για τις εγκαταστάσεις άριστες". Άριστο ρεπορτάζ.

Και στο ΝΒC έχει διάφορα κομμάτια με την Couric να παίρνει συνεντεύξεις από τον Καπράλο και τοΝ Βουλγαράκη και τους παίζει με τα χίλια.

Nikos C. · Stadium Expert Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 1041

Και αυτά είναι εικόνες που δεν μπορούσα να φανταστώ για την Αθήνα μας. Μακάρι να μείνει μια πραγματικά κοσμοπολίτικη πόλη.